Civitas Outlook
Topic
Politics
Published on
November 23, 2025
Contributors
John Yoo
Steven Hayward
Episode
The Three Whiskey Happy Hour

The Three Whisky Happy Hour: Bringing the Wood to Wood

About this episode

Another week of last minute schedule changes, flight delays, lost iPads, misplaced laptops, and other mishaps delayed the recording of this week’s episode, but finally on Saturday night we were able to sit down for an especially fast-paced episode to close out the week that comes with competing Star Trek metaphors, reflectioning and debating briefly about which was the weirdest news story of the week—the latest Epstein file revelations, MTG departing the House, the Mamdani-Trump Oval Office Summit—the greatest clash since Yalta, or the most bizarre meeting of Capitalist and Communist since Franklin Roosevelt dined alone—before we finally settle down to out main topic of the week: the launch of what will be a regular feature here on the 3WHH between now and the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence next July 4.

For this first installment, we ponder the strange case of historian Gordon Wood, considered the pre-eminent historian of the American Founding, who was in the news last week for a speech he delivered in Washington DC for the American Enterprise Institute. Steve was present to hear the speech; John took in the published version, and Lucretia let out a mighty harumph. Wood’s main thesis at the beginning of his illustrious career was that the American Founding should be understood as part of the “civic republican” tradition, rather than a Lockean-Jeffersonian natural rights revolution. It made him the left’s favorite historian for a time, a point Steve made in a critical article about Wood 20 years ago, “The Liberal Republicanism of Gordon Wood.”

Naturally—do I really need to say “naturally”? you know what’s coming next—John stepped up to defend Wood’s civic republican thesis. Lucretia thought she could sit this one out, but ChatGPT provided us with a debate between Lucretia and Wood, with “Wood” getting off some good zingers like “Lucretia, the Founding wasn’t a live-action performance of Natural Right: The Musical,” and “Of course they were serious—serious about the collapse of deference, the emergence of democratic culture, and all the other things that give Straussians spontaneous nosebleeds.” Lucretia responded in kind: “You make it sound like Samuel Adams was out there organizing consciousness-raising workshops. “Hi, I’m Sam, and I’m here to talk about my feelings on monarchy…”

The episode is slightly shorter than normal as Steve had to rush off to the final performance of Steve Hackett’s North American tour in Portland, Oregon, and the final performance of keyboardist Roger King, and because the philistine and cretinous Lucretia and John attempted to mock the gods of prog rock, the exit music this week is an excerpt from Hackett’s most famous guitar lick. IYKYK.

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